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Hey, everyone, and welcome to Crossroads Church.
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My name is Hannah Shepherd
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and I am so glad that you joined us today.
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Wherever you are on your spiritual journey and adventure,
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we believe Crossroads is here to equip you.
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Well, speaking of adventures, we're kind of all on one
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that we've been opted into, whether we wanted to or not,
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and that adventure is COVID-19,
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because like most people, 2020 has felt a little canceled.
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Well, what if there's a bright side?
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What if there's some good that could come out of the bad?
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Today, we're starting a series which we do every year
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called Spark Talks.
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But this year's a little bit different.
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We're going to hear from speakers about
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how they haven't just been living but thriving during COVID-19.
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And you might just hear something
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that sparks something in you and ignites your life.
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- We've all been forced to pause, reset,
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and reclaim our futures in light of the chaos of 2020.
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There's always darkness in adventure
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when you're not sure where you're going.
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Join us for Crossroads Weekend Spark Talks
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and hear from people who will challenge you
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with new ideas to ignite your life.
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- Hi, I'm Brian Tome, Senior Pastor at Crossroads.
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All of us have lives that are disheveled,
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things that are out of order,
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or at least we're not getting things we'd like to have,
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like sports. Can we all say, I want a Final Four?
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Can we all say, I'm bummed about
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the changing in schedules with baseball and football
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and just all across the whole thing.
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Sports are actually an incredibly important part of our life.
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It's not just a way for us to detach.
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Believe it or not, there's actually spiritual truths
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contained in athleticism.
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There's athletic metaphors in the New Testament.
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And when we engaged in athletic pursuits,
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we're actually engaged in things that mirror
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the spiritual pursuits of our normal day to day lives.
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I think we're so inspired by sports, not just because
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it allows us to get away from our normal, same old, same old,
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but it also helps us to understand spiritual realities.
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There's things that take place in athletics
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that mirror the spiritual realm.
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Today, we're going to talk to some professional athletes
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who are at the top of their game
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and they got to the top of their game,
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whether it was physical or spiritual,
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because of certain attitudes and certain disciplines they had.
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And these attitudes or mindsets are seen in the Bible
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again and again, things like delaying gratification.
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I could enjoy something now,
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but I'm not going to enjoy it now.
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I'm going to do something else now,
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because if I delay the gratification,
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later on I'm going to have more gratification.
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Other ideas like sacrificing for the team,
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understanding I'm part of a collective whole unit
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and we all have to win.
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If we all don't win, then I don't win.
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In the book of Galatians 6:9-10 it talks about this when it says:
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We're just not seeing that kind of selflessness
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in our culture today and maybe that's why we're not winning.
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Maybe that's why we're at each other's throats all the time.
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Maybe that's why we're frustrated
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and we're just not going forward because every man,
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every woman for himself
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and no one's sacrificing for the team,
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for the culture, for society.
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If you're a believer and you're aligning yourself with God,
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this is going to be something you're going to do,
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you want to grow into.
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It's something athletes understand.
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It's something people who are getting closer to God understand.
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And then also just the good old fashioned hard work,
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just not having faith, but having your faith in action.
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The Book of James is all about faith that takes action.
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It says this:
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Every professional athlete goes into a competition
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knowing that they can win,
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but if all they had was faith, that wouldn't do it.
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They have faith and an attitude
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that things are going to go their way,
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but they've also put in the hours in the weight room.
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They've also had the chalk talks.
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They also have their ten thousand hours of reps.
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You can't self talk yourself to winning.
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Well, why don't we hear from some professional athletes?
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Because this isn't theoretical for them.
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This is something they have lived.
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This is something that they are living.
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They can actually teach us something about the spiritual realm,
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not just life, but they could teach us something about God
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and how God works with His people.
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I believe they're going to spark something inside of us today.
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- Hello, my name is Anthony Munoz
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and I'm a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame class of 1998.
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Most of you would probably agree that
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the last four or five months have been a little difficult
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with COVID-19 and having to make some adjustments
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in our routines and being able to do this and not that.
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And I've been right there with you,
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so I've had to step back, reevaluate my routines,
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how can I make adjustments?
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How have I been able to make those adjustments?
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And it takes me back to my athletic years
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and I think about training.
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Training, because I needed to be prepared to make those adjustments.
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I think about the 4 years of high school football that I trained,
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the 4 years of college football that I trained,
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the 13 years in the NFL that I trained.
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It was not easy training those 20 plus years.
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And we look at life. Life is not easy.
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Life has not been easy for me.
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And I'm sure you can say the same thing.
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It's been tough.
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But I truly believe that the training I went through
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in preparation for sports, it's given me the mindset
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to be able to prepare and make adjustments.
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I look at my spiritual life.
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We have to study God's Word and move into Bible studies,
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not only in topics of things that we're going through,
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but let's get out of our comfort zone
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and learn things that we might not be going through.
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But let's train and be prepared.
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I look at what God allowed me to study with my wife
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and other couples prior to COVID-19:
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Trusting God by Jerry Bridges.
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Oh my goodness, what a great book.
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Not only have I read it two or three times
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with my wife and I alone,
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but we've gone through Bible studies with it.
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Or Put on the Armor by Chuck Lawless.
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I've been reading all that and all of a sudden
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I'm faced with all this adversity and all these readjustments.
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So spiritually, we have to be able to train,
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continue to train regardless good times, bad times
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to be ready for those adjustments.
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With our relationships, we have to be willing to train
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and lay it out on the line,
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just like I did in the weight room.
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I've got to be able to to converse with my wife.
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Forty two years we've been married.
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I've learned how to talk through the different things,
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we've been praying together in the morning, Bible studies.
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Training, preparation with your spouse,
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with your siblings, with your family, with your friends.
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Train and be prepared in your relationships.
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Lastly, when I think about training,
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I think about physical training.
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I'm old, but I think I can still get in the weight room
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and in the exercise room and still do a pretty good job.
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Maybe not as long as I used to,
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maybe not as many pounds lifting, but I can still get it done.
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It's something that I've continue to do.
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As I talked about high school, college, and pros,
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training has allowed me to keep a clear mind,
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to stay physically fit
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and to have confidence that I can make those adjustments in life.
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Same thing when you find adversity, injury.
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You might not be able to train your left shoulder
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if it's hurt, but train the rest of your body.
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If you're going through some adversity in your life,
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heal yourself up in that area, but continue to train.
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Counseling, studying the Word, Bible studies,
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and get well in that one area.
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And that's what I would encourage you to do,
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continue to look at ways you can train to be prepared
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so when those times come, you can make the adjustments.
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Thank you and God bless you.
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- I'm back here with Anthony Munoz, a legend in football,
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arguably the greatest offensive lineman of all time,
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and where I am here in Cincinnati, just a legend.
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This training, I'm really hit hard by this because
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we can't try our way to a deeper walk with God.
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Personally, in the midst of this COVID-19 thing,
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my training regimens are off.
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So do you have anything for us as far as
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how to start new rhythms, how to start new training,
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how to start new things?
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- I think it's just being creative.
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I think it's, you know, really there's a lot of times
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I'm sure you think outside the box.
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I think that has to be the case with training.
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And one thing I learned in training,
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I don't have to have a full workout room
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with all kinds of weights, is body weight, dumbbells.
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- So you had a shoulder injury.
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Have you ever had like a pinky injury?
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Has that ever happened to you?
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- Well, why would you ask?
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- Oh, my gosh.
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- I mean, like, seriously.
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- I know. I know. People say mine's gross.
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I say, "You should see Anthony's." Oh, my gosh.
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- It's close, it's close.
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- It doesn't hurt, so that's good.
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- Well, the physical stuff,
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the training stuff physically seems to be straightforward.
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But we're I'm challenged by what you said
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is the training in marriage,
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having a workout that you're doing in your marriage
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or your relationships.
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Do you look at every sector of your life
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and do you see something you want to train
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in every area of your life?
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- I do. I try to.
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Now physical training, my training with my spouse
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are probably the two easiest for me
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to really focus and get after it.
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I'm sure a lot of you probably agree,
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the spiritual part is the toughest being consistent.
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- Let's say somebody would say to themselves,
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"I'm not a very disciplined person."
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I hear a lot of people say that.
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How would you see someone get started in any area?
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- Well, when I talk, I talk about choices.
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There's things that we have to do
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that we might not want to do or feel like doing,
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but we know in order to be excellent or to get it,
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we have to do them.
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And that's -- I know it sounds easy, but it is tough.
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And the one thing I share is when I got here,
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I moved here from Southern California.
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Running was a big part of my regimen.
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If I felt like being excellent and I woke up
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and it was 35 degrees, I feel cold, I feel tired,
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or I'm going to choose to be excellent
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I'm going to put --
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we didn't have all that nice cold weather stuff
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back when I was playing.
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- Back in my day we had cotton.
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Back in my day we had a scarf that my mother wove for me
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out of weeds in the backyard.
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- So it's funny you mention.
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I would take a towel and put elastic in it
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and that would be my face--
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But I would go out and I would not cut any of my running out
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because it was too cold.
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So that's what I share with people.
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I mean, that's the only way I know
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is that I could have felt like getting out of my environment,
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single parent home, not having a whole lot,
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or I could have I chose to get out of that environment.
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- Is there any area of your life that you find
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specifically difficult to train in?
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That you just feel like it's hard for me
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to get traction on this one?
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It's not like falling off a log.
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- Easy one: self talk.
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People think you accomplish this, you're doing this,
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you must be so confident. You must be --
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My self talk, I mean, and I ask for forgiveness all the time.
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It is not the best self talk.
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I mean, I tear myself down.
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I -- I don't feel -- and it is just one of those things.
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I don't know if -- I'm still trying to figure out,
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is that the way I motivate myself?
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But it's not good. It's not good.
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I mean it's -- that -- it's easy for me to say,
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I -- my self talk to myself is just the worst.
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I really at my age, I need to really work on that.
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- Do you have a training regimen to overcome that?
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- I try. I mean, it's something that I work on and --
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- Try how?
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- Well, I mean, I have a whole sheet of self-esteem scripture's.
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- OK.
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- And it's like, why-- why can't -- I mean --
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- That's great.
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- So you look at that.
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- You look at that and internalize it?
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- Yeah, I look at them and I mean the fact that
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we're God's children and I mean created in His image.
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I mean, just, you know, all the scriptures of --
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- There's therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ.
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- Yeah. And that -- and it just --
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I can tell you that that is one area
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that I am so inconsistent in
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and I need really to work on.
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- Thanks for your vulnerability.
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I mean, I feel that.
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I was a literal orphan. I'm adopted. I was --
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And part of the orphan mentality is
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you're only as good as your last accomplishment.
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You're afraid someone is going to reject you.
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You -- no one gives you, you've got to go, go, go, go, go.
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And it -- Yeah, I'm -- I'm --
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I'm regularly feeling awful about myself
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or feeling I don't measure up to somebody
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and it doesn't end for me.
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I'm just -- I'm the same way with you, Anthony.
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It doesn't end with me.
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Crossroads could be going great.
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but I hear about somebody who's doing something better
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or something I haven't thought of,
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and I immediately feel like, "I'm a loser. What is my problem?"
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Any moments I can just be put in a tailspin
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because I feel like I don't measure up.
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And yeah, that's why I'm asking.
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If you've got tips for that, I'll take more.
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I think the scriptures are good.
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- Yeah, I -- I can't -- I can say probably honestly
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that it's not -- I don't look at somebody like,
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you know, he's faster, stronger
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and I don't feel like I measure up because I'm not that.
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It's just an internal thing with myself.
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- Yes.
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- It's just a constant battle.
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I mean, you know, it's kind of like, you know,
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it's not like, "Well, he accomplished this, I didn't.
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It's almost like I didn't do it for myself, you know,
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it's just it's really hard to explain.
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- Well, it may be hard to explain,
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because I have a feeling this is a very common thing
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with with people right now.
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I think this is a normal thing.
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It's just -- it's like a curse that we live under.
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I don't know if it's our culture
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or if it's our humanity, but just great, great insights.
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Hey, Anthony, thanks for being with us today.
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I mean, having a Hall of Fame,
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arguably the greatest offensive lineman ever.
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And actually where I am right now in Cincinnati,
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one of the most respected, most honored people in our city.
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It's really an honor to be with you today.
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It humbles me to hear those words
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and it's great being with you always.
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- You know, I used to play football and I was going to go pro,
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but then I decided to become a pastor instead.
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No, I could barely get out of varsity.
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Yeah. Hey, one thing I do know for sure I'm not lying about
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is God is faithful.
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And one of the commitments I've made and many of us have made
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is whenever God increases something for us financially,
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whether it's our paycheck or whatever else,
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He will get a set percentage back.
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We're a tithing church, many of us tithe.
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10 percent, goes back to God, goes back to our church,
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or many of us are beyond 10 percent,
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or some of us are working our way to 10 percent.
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But we want to be faithful.
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And whether you have a job right now
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or you don't have a job right now,
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I hope we can all remember that God is faithful
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to do for me things I couldn't do for ourselves.
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So we're going to recognize that right now.
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For those of us who are going to be givers,
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you can go to Crossroads.net/give
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or you can text Crossroads to 313131.
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Next up, we get to hear from an NFL running back.
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We got to spend some time together
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and I ended up teaching him a few of my moves.
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- What's up, everybody? My name is Boston Scott.
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I was born and raised in Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
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and I play for the Philadelphia Eagles.
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I'm a running back.
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2020 has definitely been an interesting year, to say the least.
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And I know there's been a lot of ups and downs,
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has been frustrations, there's been a lot of circumstances.
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But I hope that by sharing my story,
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I'm able to encourage you a little bit
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about how God has changed my mindset and my perspective.
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And I hope that it encourages and motivates you.
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My mom made sure that I was in the church,
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in the church is just how we say it down in the south.
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During that time I had a great understanding
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of Jesus being my Savior.
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Great idea, but not so much Jesus being my Lord.
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And so playing football,
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I started playing football in seventh and eighth grade
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and my identity was in football.
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It dictated my actions, it dictated my mood.
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If I was doing well, I would feel good.
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If I wasn't doing well, I'd be down in the dumps.
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And what I was trying to do was I was trying
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to fill the hole in my heart with with football
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when it was a Jesus sized hole.
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And so whenever I hit rock bottom, I was feeling empty,
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I was feeling a lost, I was feeling frustrated.
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I realized that nothing that this world has to offer
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can fulfill me in the way that that God can.
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And so I made the decision to commit my life to Christ
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at 16 years old.
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From there, my mindset kind of shifted.
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It kind of shifted because I knew that
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nothing could pluck me from His hand.
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It was all about faith, you know,
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and in a world full of inconsistency,
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He was the only consistent.
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And so now I started to view these circumstances
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and these frustrations as opportunities to grow,
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opportunities to share His love.
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And so fast forward, I went to Louisiana Tech University
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in ole Ruston, Louisiana.
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From there I walked on and I had the opportunity
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to play for four years
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and I ended up earning my scholarship.
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And I became one of the only ones in my class to get drafted.
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I got drafted by the New Orleans Saints.
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I get to New Orleans and your boy hits another obstacle.
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I get assigned to the practice squad.
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It's pretty frustrating, you know, because you believe
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that the coaches don't believe in you,
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the organization doesn't believe in you.
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You're a hometown guy and in Louisiana
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and you're on the practice squad.
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I mean, what going on, man?
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At least show your boy some hometown love.
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Give you a boy shot.
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It didn't happen.
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Again, I was able to view this as an opportunity
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to work on my craft, to get some work in
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against one of the most stingy run defenses
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in the league at the time.
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And then 2020 -- later that year, Philly comes knocking.
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Philly comes knocking on the door, finally my time,
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finally my time to shine.
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So I get out there, I get my opportunity and I'm able
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to contribute to the team and everything's going well.
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You know? And now fast forward to where I am today,
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I'm sitting in a pretty good situation, you know,
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going into probably one of my biggest years
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in my NFL career, 2020 come knocking on the door.
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"How you doing?" Not good.
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And so, you know, it's been frustrating at times,
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but I've been able to focus on these times as opportunities.
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My father had a stroke back in 2018 and it's hard.
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It's not easy going through what he did
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and then also the process of getting better,
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the process of returning to normalcy, you know?
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And with everything shutting down,
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he's not able to have access to some of the therapy
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that he was able to have access to before COVID happened.
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And so now I'm doing speech therapy with my pops.
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2020 has definitely been crazy.
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I don't know about ya'll,
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but your boy is ready to get back on the field
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and I'm choosing to have hope.
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I'm not going to view my circumstances as obstacles.
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I'm going to view these as opportunities to grow
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and become who God is call for me to be.
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And I hope that you do the same thing too.
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- You know, very few people reach the upper echelons
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of the National Football League,
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let alone win a Super Bowl as a player and a coach,
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let alone get to talk to such a person.
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Well, today, we're talking about legends.
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Legends like Mike Ditka, Tom Flores, Tony Dungy,
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and our guests today,
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current head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, Doug Pederson.
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Doug spent the majority of his professional career
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playing with the Green Bay Packers, winning Super Bowl XXXI.
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Anybody who beats the New England Patriots is a friend of mine.
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He has plenty to teach us about perseverance, hard work,
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and what it takes to get the best out of others.
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I'm beyond excited to welcome Coach Doug Pederson.
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Welcome to The Aggressive Life, Coach.
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-Hey, Brian, thank you so much for having me on.
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That's -- that's a lot of energy right there for that intro.
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I do appreciate it.
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- How are you doing with the whole COVID stuff,
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and as a relational guy,
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probably having to be a lot less relational?
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- Yeah, you are.
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And that's the part that has been probably
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the hardest to get used to, you know, because
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we missed an entire off season with our players
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being in our building, being in our facility.
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We did a lot of these, you know, Zoom or Microsoft teams meetings.
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You know, that's the part I miss.
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I miss being around the players this spring and my coaches.
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And I think that's where you start --
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that's where you really begin laying the foundation
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for your football team and you start building
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and cultivating those relationships in the spring.
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And we missed all of that.
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But I'm going to tell you something.
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My hat goes off to to my staff and our trainers
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and our sports nutrition people and sports science people,
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and sports performance people.
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What a great job they did,
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continuing to cultivate and build relationships,
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even though we were doing it like this, you know,
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through a computer screen.
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And, you know, it's just something I just can't wait
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to get back into the building,
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can't wait to get back around the players.
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And, you know, it's something that we'll learn from
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as we move forward, even even after, you know,
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after these next few months pass.
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- Everyone wants to be led and led well, don't they?
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Whether you're a high school athlete, professional athlete.
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I find my kids, I keep thinking I'm done leading them.
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I keep thinking I'm done parenting them.
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But no, it never ends, man, they want dad on his game.
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- Right. Being around my players and my guys,
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they want to see authentic, real, transparent guys.
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It's the same way with parenting, with --
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I have three boy,s and my wife and I,
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they want to see the authenticity,
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they want to see transparency.
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They want to see that were real.
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And, you know, even though as dads sometimes
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we try to walk around and we have the the supermen mentality,
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like we can do everything
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and we will do anything and everything for our kids.
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It's OK to to say, "Hey, let's let's figure this out together.
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I don't have all the answers."
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And that's what these players really want.
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- Another thing that's interesting about your reputation
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is I remember before I knew you
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and just watching pregame for that the Super Bowl victory
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that you had as a coach and reading stuff beforehand,
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there was quite a bit of buzz around the faith component
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in the Philadelphia Eagles locker room.
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Is that something that's normative for other NFL teams
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or is there something unique that's happening
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with you and the Eagles?
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- You know, it's hard to speak for other teams,
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but I would say for me and for the Eagles,
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it's how I want to lead the football team.
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You know, I think my faith is first and foremost.
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I wouldn't be sitting here today, obviously, you know,
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without my relationship with Jesus Christ.
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And I, you know, I'm not ashamed to say that.
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And I even said that on the podium after the Super Bowl,
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that, you know, that all of the success is because of Him.
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And I continue to lead my team based on, you know,
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my relationship with Christ
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and how He instructs me on a daily basis.
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00:25:41
- In leading an organization where obviously
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not everybody in the locker room is a person of faith
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00:25:47
or has interest in it, are there things
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00:25:48
that you do as a leader of faith,
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00:25:51
that you think people in the boardroom
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00:25:53
or in their own businesses could do with with people
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who report to them that don't share their faith?
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Any secrets you've learned?
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- I do a coaches Bible study that, you know,
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00:26:02
just invite the coaches if they want to come in
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00:26:06
on a Friday morning, you know, during the season
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00:26:09
and spend 30 minutes in the Word, you know, great.
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00:26:12
I encourage the players.
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The players have Bible studies during the week.
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And you're absolutely right, and everybody's different,
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00:26:20
everybody's level of faith is different.
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00:26:25
Not everybody is a believer.
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00:26:26
But for me, it's taking what I've read that day
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00:26:31
and being able to sort of intertwine that
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00:26:34
into my message to the team.
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00:26:36
- COVID-19, it's upended much of our world.
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00:26:40
It's upended our sports.
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00:26:41
My gosh, how good was it when you could actually
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00:26:45
go to a stadium and you could scream and drink beer?
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00:26:49
And it's mind blowing that us as leaders
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00:26:51
have had to learn new skills
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00:26:53
that we never thought that we would learn.
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00:26:55
I haven't been in the room, in a room with our staff,
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00:26:59
all our staff in a room for, what, four months now?
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00:27:03
I tell you what, there is vision drift
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00:27:05
when a leader can't get with his folks.
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00:27:07
We're doing the Zoom calls and all that stuff,
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00:27:08
but it's just -- it's just tough.
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00:27:11
How are you leading during the COVID-19?
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00:27:13
How are you -- How are you -- How have you adapted?
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00:27:17
- At first I really didn't know.
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00:27:45
I mean, you know, you learn how to do things
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00:27:48
and be creative, whether it's, you know, having
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00:27:53
virtual workouts from our strength and conditioning staff,
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00:27:56
to have virtual workouts with our players
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00:27:58
and be able to put them in pods.
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00:28:00
And they're all over the country, but yet
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00:28:02
they can still workout virtually,
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00:28:04
bringing in guest speakers to speak to the team.
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00:28:07
We're not making excuses. We're going to embrace it.
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00:28:10
And whatever direction we go in the future,
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00:28:14
we're going to embrace that as a football team
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00:28:16
and as an organization.
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00:28:17
And I think the biggest thing is what it's taught me,
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00:28:23
not only as a coach, but as a leader,
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00:28:25
even the leader of my family, is that it's OK to --
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00:28:30
it's OK to take a step back from life sometimes
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00:28:33
and just kind of hit the pause button
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00:28:35
and just take a deep breath,
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00:28:37
just kind of kind of exhale just a little bit
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00:28:40
and slow down from the fast paced lifestyle
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00:28:44
that we all seem to live.
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00:28:47
= All right. So, Doug, this has been a great time.
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00:28:50
Is there is there any anything else you want to talk about
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00:28:53
that we haven't asked you about
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00:28:54
or anything you want to you want to push that we haven't mentioned?
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00:28:58
This is your time to help people connect
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00:29:01
with whatever you want them to connect with?
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00:29:02
- Well, obviously there is a book, Fearless.
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00:29:08
It's a book I wrote after the Super Bowl.
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00:29:11
It just talks about -- it just talks about
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00:29:14
how an underdog becomes a champion.
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00:29:16
And really, even though you're on top
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00:29:43
that's kind of how I tick, I guess, each and every day.
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00:29:44
- I don't think that message of fearlessness we can hear too much.
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00:29:48
I mean, America is not the land of the free
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00:29:50
or the land of the fear.
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00:29:52
We have more anxieties and stresses and fears,
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00:29:56
more seatbelts, helmets, insurance policies,
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00:30:00
more meds consumed than any culture in the history of the world.
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00:30:04
And I'm not against helmets and safety helmets
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00:30:08
and insurance policies. I have them all.
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00:30:10
I'm not against meds.
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00:30:11
I'm just saying if we take a look at our culture, man,
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00:30:14
we are emotionally sapped as far as creativity,
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00:30:20
because we're just -- we're just crushed with fear.
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00:30:22
And I think it is also part of why COVID-19
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00:30:25
just plays right into where we are,
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00:30:26
we're looking for things to fear. It's not good.
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00:30:28
So any time someone's got a book to help us
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00:30:30
get our hands around that, that's great news.
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00:30:33
- Yep, you're absolutely right.
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00:30:34
And, you know, I just -- I feel for so many people
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00:30:39
who have lost their jobs or have lost loved ones
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00:30:42
through through this pandemic.
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00:30:44
And, you know, but as as we say as a football team
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00:30:48
and we have a phrase that we use a lot
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00:30:50
and it sort of the mantra for
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00:30:53
the 2020 Philadelphia Eagles is stronger together.
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00:30:58
And if we stay united, stay connected, stay grounded,
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00:31:01
stay stronger, we're going to get through anything.
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00:31:04
And our country, our country will get through this as well.
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00:31:08
And, you know, I'm just encouraged by that
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00:31:12
and I wake up every day, you know,
seeing where I can make a difference,
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00:31:17
whether it be in our our community or with our team.
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00:31:20
And I truly believe that if we continue to stay strong,
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00:31:24
that we'll get through this.
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00:31:25
We'll get through this together.
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00:31:27
- Doug, it's been an honor and pleasure, brother.
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00:31:29
I'm really thankful for you.
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00:31:30
I can't wait to see you guys winning.
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00:31:31
And I'm hoping to see a face to face again sometime.
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00:31:36
- Yeah, I appreciate it. Thanks again.
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00:31:38
- All right.
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00:31:40
- Well, we've heard from an NFL running back
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00:31:42
who's coming in to the top of his game,
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00:31:44
the greatest NFL lineman maybe in history in Anthony Munoz.
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00:31:48
A lot of stuff today and a lot of depth today
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00:31:51
if we understand the source of what they're talking about.
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00:31:56
Anthony shared with me a page of some of the quotes
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00:31:58
that he looks at that are inspirational for him.
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00:32:00
He also shared me some of the verses that he looks at
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00:32:03
to deal with his spiritual self-esteem that we talked about.
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00:32:05
Here's one of them.
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00:32:07
It comes from the the from the book of Ephesians
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00:32:09
and it says this:
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00:32:41
You know what this says, it says that
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00:32:44
you're not who you are based on your beliefs,
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00:32:48
you're not who you are based on your moral choices
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00:32:52
this last week.
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00:32:53
Your beliefs, your moral choices are important.
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00:32:55
But the reason why Anthony meditates on this
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00:32:58
and we all need to is because it says that
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00:33:01
the gospel says who you are, Jesus says who you are,
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00:33:06
and it says God had a thought and a vision for your life
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00:33:11
that you're not here by accident.
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00:33:12
You're not here by random amalgamation of proteins,
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00:33:15
that He knitted you and formed you together
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00:33:18
in your mother's womb, that He's got a purpose for you,
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00:33:23
and that He adopts you into His family.
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00:33:25
I'm physically adopted into the Tome family
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00:33:29
because I was orphaned at birth,
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00:33:31
but I was physically adopted into the Tome family
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00:33:34
and God adopts all children into His family.
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00:33:39
You have been adopted in this family
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00:33:41
and you have a purpose on this earth.
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00:33:44
It doesn't matter what you've done,
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00:33:45
it matters what God is doing in you.
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00:33:47
It matters the purpose He has for you.
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00:34:26
I want us to actually worship together.
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00:34:27
elevates our game. Let's do that together right now.
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00:43:28
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00:43:31
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