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- Hey, welcome to Crossroads.
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I'm Andy and I'm so glad
that you've joined us today.
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You're actually joining
us for our second week
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studying a book in
the Bible called Mark.
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Specifically, we're
going to look at
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how lines, circles, and
Jesus all closely relate
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and come together in this book.
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But first, we're
actually going to spend
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this next bit of time
worshiping together.
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This is a time of singing
songs about God and to Him.
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But we also believe that worship
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isn't confined to singing
songs or just singing songs
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in one room at
one time together.
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One of the beautiful things
that I'm learning right now
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is that we don't all have
to be in the same place
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physically to
experience God together.
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Now, a couple of weekends ago,
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I actually experienced
this personally.
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I was out solo
camping and I got a text
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from a Crossroads
community member in Nepal.
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It was a video of his son
and his friends performing
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a Crossroads music
original worshiping in Nepal.
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And I had a beautiful moment
in the middle of the woods,
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being led in worship by
a member of our church,
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literally on the other
side of the world.
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So wherever you are
right now, this is a chance
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for you to have a
few minutes with
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the God who loves you
more than you can know.
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- You may not know
it, but what you just said
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is Scripture, it's not new
words created in 2024.
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You just said Scripture.
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Our our team wrote this
song right from a scripture.
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It's been near and dear
to my heart for many years
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because I needed
to choose to believe it.
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So it became an
anchor point for me.
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It's James 1:17 in the Bible.
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It says every good gift
and every perfect gift
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comes from above, it comes
down from the Father of lights.
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What you're in right now,
online and in this room,
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you're surrounded by many
people who believe that.
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I believe that, that every
good thing in my life
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has a source to it,
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and that source
is the Creator of all. It's God.
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You may not believe that.
You're in the right place.
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You came in here wanting more,
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and you're surrounded
by people who would say,
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"I found more. He's a
good God, a provider,
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a good source of
all good things."
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And as I just watch in the room,
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I can't see you
online, forgive me.
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But as I just watch in
the room, I could see
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some of you seeing those
words in that first song
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or the second song, or
even that song just now,
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Anything That's Good and some
of you just lit up with a smile.
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Because for you
today, it's easy to say,
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"Oh, yeah, I remember.
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I remember God
providing me this.
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I remember the friend
who invited me here.
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I remember the loved
one I'm standing next to.
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I remember my first child,
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or I remember acing that
test," whatever it may be.
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Some of your faces
lit up as we sing this.
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Others of you
still chose to sing,
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even without a
smile on your face,
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because where you're
at in life right now
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says this is a hard
choice to say He's good.
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It's a hard choice to show
up and believe in a good God.
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When I'm in that space,
I need to hear stories.
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I need to hear stories of
those who are around me
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saying, "Here's where
He's been good in my life."
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Because their
stories remind me of
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how He's been
good in my own life.
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They help me see it.
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It's one of the benefits
of us gathering together
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as we get to share stories.
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And so one of the best
places we collect those stories
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as a church is out
on our base camp.
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Anybody been to camps
before? There you go.
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So we have this
space out at camp
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where we just can collect
your raw, uh, unedited story.
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We call them dumper stories.
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Why do we call it a dumper?
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Well, because it's an outhouse.
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And why would we put a
recording in an outhouse
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for people to tell their
very personal story?
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Well, because we're Crossroads.
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And so there's a
literal outhouse.
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It's not a functional
outhouse. Take it easy.
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But it's a literal old outhouse.
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And people can go in
there any moment that
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they want out of
camp and pick up
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this old military grade
phone and speak into it,
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their raw, in the
moment response
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to seeing God's breakthrough
and God's goodness.
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And so whether it's with a
smile today or a stern choice,
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I want you to hear some
stories of God's breakthrough.
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We're going to keep worshiping.
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You're going to hear a
couple of these stories
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collected in that,
stories of breakthrough,
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stories of God's goodness.
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- This is my fourth camp.
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Two Man Camps, a Couples
Camp, and now Father Son Camp.
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I came out of Couples
Camp seeing the power of God
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move in my marriage,
and I brought my son
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to Father Son Camp hoping
to see that same change,
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but knowing that
life with my son
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has been hard
as raising a son is.
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And letting go of
baggage so that
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we can continue to
grow as God wants us to.
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And I found out
during solitude that
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my seven year old is
carrying and sees his baggage.
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And it gave me the realization
that my expectations for myself,
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my expectations for
him, are outlandish,
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but am now realizing that
by holding on to my baggage,
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I'm forcing him to
hold on to his too.
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And we both need
to let our baggage go
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so that we can help
each other to grow better
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as father and son and
as followers of Christ.
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And that's my big
takeaway from this weekend.
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- I wasn't expecting to have
a breakthrough in the woods.
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We were asked to close our eyes
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and to let God just
tell us what we needed.
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When I closed my eyes, I
saw my daughter's headstone,
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and I heard, "She
is Mine." And I lost it.
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I cried so hard
because I realized that
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I have been so angry at God.
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I kept hearing, "She
is Mine, she is Mine."
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And I realized that my
daughter was always His
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and the short amount of
time that I had her heartbeat
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and I had her body, and I
had so much love for her
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that she was never
mine. She was always His.
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So that's what I'm leaving
at camp: fear and anger.
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And it is such a burden off
of my chest and my heart.
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I'm so grateful to
have this opportunity.
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- I'm in Puerto
Rico interacting with
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one of the partners that we have
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that we partner
with with Go Trips.
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And this house was
recently completed
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by a bunch of Crossroads folks.
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For this house we
were the first one in,
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we're the last one
out working here
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since a natural disaster
a couple of years ago.
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And I'll tell you what, that's
part of why we do Go Trips,
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because people's
lives get changed,
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not just on the other
side of the world
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or outside of America,
but actually in your life.
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Hey, why don't you
try something new?
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Why don't you try getting
outside your comfort zone?
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Why don't you try
blessing somebody else,
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giving them a hand up in life?
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In the process,
you just might find
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your life change as
well. Go someplace.
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- Now, like BT just
said, life change happens
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when we go and when we move.
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And if you're interested
in that life change
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for yourself and being
a part of life change
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for someone else across
the globe, you can check out
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all of our Go Trips at
Crossroads.net/trips.
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Now, I have experienced
this in South Africa,
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in India, in Nicaragua,
and actually this year
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I'm going to experience it
fresh again in Puerto Rico.
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Would love for you to join me
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and the Anywhere
team this December.
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I mean, it's December
in Puerto Rico.
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Come on, find a trip
that works for you and go.
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Now part of what you
just heard in worship
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are stories of life
change from real people
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who experienced God
at one of our camps.
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Now, what are camps?
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They are unique
Crossroads events
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hosted on our land in Ohio,
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specifically designed to
take you to a new place
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relationally and spiritually.
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We have over nine
different camp experiences,
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so whether you're a man,
woman, couple, student,
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veteran, senior who can't
sleep on the ground anymore,
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hey, we have something for you.
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So wherever you live,
we want you to come
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and experience
this for yourself.
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You can find out more
information and sign up
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for a camp at
Crossroads.net/camps.
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Now, we've been talking
a lot about life change,
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and life change
happens through going
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and experiencing
something new with God,
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but it can also happen
through the practice
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of living generously,
specifically financially,
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through the tithe.
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What we mean by that
is that a lot of people
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in our community
practice the biblical concept
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of the tithe by giving
10% of their gross income
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back to their local church.
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And if that sounds crazy,
hey, stick with me here.
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Twice in our history,
in October of '19
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and October of 2022,
we did a teaching series
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called The Blessed
Life that explains
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why we believe what we
believe about God and money
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and, man, what happens when
we put God first in our lives,
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as evidenced by how
we manage our money,
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that He shows up in our
lives in profound ways.
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Most of the people who
experienced The Blessed Life
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said it was some of
the most refreshing,
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invigorating, biblical
teaching they've ever heard,
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and it was about money.
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Here's a story of
one person whose life
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was impacted by
The Blessed Life.
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- My name is Arturo Minera.
You can call me Arturo.
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I didn't grow up in church.
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I grew up in Miami, Florida.
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My family moved up here
when I was ten years old.
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My parents separated
shortly after moving up here,
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but it was at that point
where now my mom
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being a single mom
with her four kids,
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giving, when it was
explained to me,
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the youth pastors would
have these sermons
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about here's how you give when
you don't have money to give.
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The foundation of
how to give back for me
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wasn't financial
because just contextually,
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I didn't have always
a dollar to give
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in that bucket that some
churches would pass around.
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It was giving of
time and talent.
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So I would get involved
in like the worship team.
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I had already, in my head,
I was already thinking,
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"I am giving. What do I
need to do with my money
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that I'm not already
giving with my time?"
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My rationale was God's
giving me money. Great.
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Now I can do
something with that,
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pay my bills and everything.
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But God, you're still
getting 10% of me,
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so that should be enough."
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That was the posture in my heart
for a good amount of years.
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It was just a thing
you had to do.
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So what changed for me
then was a couple things.
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Going back to my wife and I,
on the verge of getting married.
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We went church
shopping for a year.
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We landed on Crossroads.
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And wouldn't you
know it, the first teaching
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that we arrived to was
The Blessed Life series.
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The way I remembered
it, it gave us this analogy
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of this rainforest somewhere
that he stepped into,
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and it was almost
magical in how here
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you're constantly being
poured on with rain, with dews,
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and you step out and
it's almost like magic.
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And it was through
that language of like,
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man, there's there's an
invitation God gives us
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to live in this blessed life.
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And it's kind of silly
how humanity tends to,
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for whatever
reason, step out of it.
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It was a great foundation
for my wife and I
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for a lot of things,
because as newlyweds,
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as new parents, and then
when it comes to giving,
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it was just a fresh look at
here's what would happen
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if you considered giving as
much as you could back to God.
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And then when we step
into it, we've seen the fruits
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and we've seen it
in all parts of our life.
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Why would we give that
up? Why would we stop now?
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We decided to start giving,
and some of those things
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that we started to
see was more peace.
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The first couple of
weeks were very rocky.
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I could really only say
a couple weeks because
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peace of knowing that
God covered us financially,
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God covered us at home.
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There's a lot of personal things
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that we were very
concerned about.
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As soon as we started giving
with this changed mindset,
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this changed perspective,
willing, changed perspective,
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we just saw a lot of fights
that could have happened,
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just not, kind of
aligned us in a way that
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when we did things,
we kind of sensed that
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we weren't doing it alone.
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So what was important
to me was, and for my wife,
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was knowing that being
part of a community
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that was all in on giving,
financially giving in these ways
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was something that
made my wife and I feel
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more comfortable
about doing together.
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I see now God is showing
up with another thing
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that I didn't trust.
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I didn't --I didn't know who
to trust with my finances.
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I didn't know who to trust with
this whole concept of giving.
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I put my trust in
Him and once again,
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surprise, surprise, He shows up.
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- Hey, I know Arturo
and that is what happens
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when someone truly
puts God first in their life,
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as evidenced not just by
where they spend their time,
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but where they
spend their money.
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And Arturo found things like
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peace that surpasses
understanding.
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He and his wife
drew closer together.
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He got answers from God
about questions that he had.
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In short, he saw God's
blessings in his life.
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And did you hear
what he said at the end?
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The fact that he was part
of a community of people
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who were committed
to giving in this way,
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encouraged him and his wife.
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And that's true.
That's what happens.
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You are surrounded by
people who put God first
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in their finances, and God
regularly uses those people
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to change the world
through Crossroads.
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Just last week, over
40,000 people heard
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the gospel preached at
our Super Bowl of Preaching.
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This is faithful people
who tithe and give
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and make that and so
much more possible.
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And for anyone who
tithes at Crossroads,
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we have something
called the Blue Team.
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And if that's you, I want to
encourage you to sign up
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and join the literally
thousands of people
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who are already
on The Blue Team.
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The Blue Team is for
self-declared tithers,
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so we take your word on it.
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We don't check
your w-2s or anything.
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And you don't
have to be wealthy.
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Crossroads doesn't have
any corporate sponsors,
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just normal, faithful people.
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So when you sign up,
you'll be put on the list
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of people who regularly
get special information
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about what's happening
behind the scenes
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here at Crossroads,
and specifically
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who are asked to
pray for those things
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and the mission that
God has given us.
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Every year around this
time, we also send out
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an annual Blue Team sticker,
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and we're about
to do that this year.
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So if you are a tither,
then please sign up ASAP
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00:29:49
at crossroads.net/BlueTeam
so we can get that to you
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and have you on the list.
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And if that's not you,
hey, please hear me here,
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you are still welcome.
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We know we have people
at all different phases
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of their spiritual journey,
and we are so glad about that.
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And you can still
support the work that God
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is doing here at Crossroads
at Crossroads.net/give.
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Now, just as God invites
us into a blessed life,
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He invites us
into life with Him.
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00:30:14
We're in our second week
of studying the book of Mark
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together, and Alli
is diving deep into
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how Jesus invites
us into relationship.
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- Some of us see
lines as divisive,
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limiting and restrictive.
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00:30:48
Others see lines
and think, "Sweet,
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now we know exactly
where to go and what to do."
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00:30:53
In their purest form,
lines provide clarity
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00:30:56
about the space
between two points.
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What if I told you that Jesus
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was really good
at drawing lines?
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00:31:03
He was all about challenging
people to something better.
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00:31:06
Jesus constantly
challenges people
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00:31:09
to step over the
line to receive more.
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00:31:12
When we choose to step
over the line Jesus draws,
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00:31:15
we are stepping into
more of his goodness.
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00:31:18
Circles, on the other hand,
they're just lines that curve.
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00:31:21
A circle shows us where
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00:31:23
the energy
is concentrated in the middle.
-
00:31:25
A circle surrounds and
identifies what is valued.
-
00:31:28
Everyone wants to
feel valued and known.
-
00:31:30
All throughout history,
Jesus has been weaponized
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00:31:33
or minimized by
people who want Him
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00:31:35
to fit into their circle,
club, or the in-crowd.
-
00:31:39
Jesus drew His own
circle, and it turns out
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00:31:42
it was bigger than anyone
could have ever expected.
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00:31:46
Whether you resonate
more with lines or circles,
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00:31:49
Jesus calls you to step into
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00:31:51
more of His
concentrated goodness.
-
00:31:54
Jesus wants all of
us to step over the line
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00:31:57
into His giant circle.
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00:32:01
- Hey, everybody. I'm Alli.
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00:32:03
It's great to be with you
this weekend at Crossroads.
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00:32:06
And we are in the
Gospel of Mark, looking for
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00:32:09
the fullest picture of Jesus
that we can possibly get.
-
00:32:13
Why is this so important?
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00:32:14
Whenever I read the Gospels,
I'm always asking God,
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00:32:17
"Make sure I see the real Jesus
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00:32:20
because I want to know Him,
which helps me love Him."
-
00:32:23
And it actually also
helps us understand
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00:32:25
what might He be doing
in our life every single day.
-
00:32:29
And today we're
going to talk about that
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00:32:31
a little bit in depth in the
context of relationship.
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00:32:34
What kind of
relationship is Jesus after
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00:32:38
for you and for me in
our life every single day?
-
00:32:43
I think there's a line
that He is inviting all of us
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00:32:47
to step across
into a very specific
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00:32:50
kind of relationship with Him.
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00:32:51
Some of us haven't
seen that line.
-
00:32:53
Some of us are
hiding from that line.
-
00:32:55
But I think some of
us step across a line
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00:32:58
into a brand new place with Him.
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00:33:00
Let me pray for us.
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00:33:01
Would You speak
to us personally about
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00:33:03
where we are with You, what
what our relationships are like?
-
00:33:06
And I'm asking
that You would invite
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00:33:08
every single person
who's present with us here
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00:33:11
or online to step into
a new space with You.
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00:33:17
In Jesus's name, Amen.
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00:33:20
Well, we've got -- we've
been using this concept
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00:33:22
of circles and
lines to think about
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00:33:24
some of the complexities
of Jesus, who He is,
-
00:33:27
what His character is like,
what He does in our life.
-
00:33:29
And through the gospel
of Mark, undoubtedly,
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00:33:32
when we look at how
Jesus relates to other people,
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00:33:34
we see both of these things.
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00:33:36
Some of us love the idea
of Jesus being circled Jesus,
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00:33:39
you know, inviting
everybody in Jesus,
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00:33:42
all up close, come closer,
come near everybody.
-
00:33:46
And He is absolutely that.
-
00:33:48
And He also draws some lines.
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00:33:50
And as I look at the Gospel
of Mark, I see this theme
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00:33:53
that shows me how Jesus invited
everyone into His circle.
-
00:33:58
Mark writes about a
very specific word that
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00:34:01
as you're reading
the book with us,
-
00:34:03
I hope you are in the app.
-
00:34:04
I'm reading Mark
through the app. I
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00:34:06
hope you are as well.
-
00:34:07
Mark repeatedly talks
about crowds, crowds,
-
00:34:12
crowds, crowds
everywhere Jesus goes
-
00:34:15
it seems that there's a
crowd gathering around Him.
-
00:34:18
And this theme goes
all throughout the gospel.
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00:34:20
And to me, it's indicative
of just how many times
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00:34:23
Jesus welcomed in,
invited in, and let Himself
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00:34:27
be around a whole
bunch of people.
-
00:34:29
And when He did that,
He didn't draw a lot of lines.
-
00:34:32
And these weren't
just any crowds.
-
00:34:34
They were kind of like
a crowd that I was in
-
00:34:36
maybe a year, year and
a half ago, I took my girls
-
00:34:39
and we went to an FC Cincinnati
soccer game one night.
-
00:34:42
A friend gave us tickets,
-
00:34:43
and right as we
approached the stadium,
-
00:34:46
this huge thunderstorm
broke open.
-
00:34:49
I mean, like enormous.
-
00:34:51
And right as we're
going up the steps.
-
00:34:53
Now, some of you
get caught in the rain
-
00:34:55
and your skin looks dewy
and you get beachy waves.
-
00:34:58
I look like my cat when
he falls in the bathtub.
-
00:35:02
So this -- I'm super distracted.
-
00:35:04
We're walking up the stairs
and the rain is pouring down,
-
00:35:06
and I don't really realize
-
00:35:08
until it's like 10
seconds too late,
-
00:35:10
we just join the
stream of people,
-
00:35:12
that they had cleared the seats.
-
00:35:14
So everyone in the
stadium was crushed into
-
00:35:17
the circle where all the
concessions and bathrooms are.
-
00:35:20
And it was like
scary crowd, like,
-
00:35:24
nobody can move, people
in your face, on your back.
-
00:35:27
I'm trying to keep
a hold of my girls.
-
00:35:28
I mean, it is a literal crush
of people kind of crowd.
-
00:35:32
And we were like
that for about an hour.
-
00:35:35
And you could tell the
crowd wanted something.
-
00:35:38
They really wanted
that game to start.
-
00:35:41
They wanted to get
back to their seats.
-
00:35:42
And nobody, nobody wanted to be
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00:35:45
right up in each other's faces.
-
00:35:46
But we all were there
for the same reason.
-
00:35:49
That's exactly what some of the
crowds were like around Jesus.
-
00:35:52
I think sometimes when
I read the word crowds,
-
00:35:54
I just think like, "Oh, it
was a couple dozen people."
-
00:35:57
No, it was that kind of
crowd. It was a crushing crowd.
-
00:36:02
People were very
interested in being near Him
-
00:36:05
because of how Jesus
drew circles in a crowd,
-
00:36:08
because of how He invited
people into His space.
-
00:36:12
Jesus was very freely
interacting in the crowd.
-
00:36:16
All through Mark,
whenever you see that word,
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00:36:19
watch what He does.
-
00:36:20
Jesus never once rejects,
belittles, demeans a crowd.
-
00:36:27
He actually engages
very freely with them.
-
00:36:30
Jesus meets needs in the crowd,
-
00:36:32
like real practical needs.
-
00:36:33
We get stories all the
way through this gospel
-
00:36:36
of Jesus doing things
like feeding people dinner,
-
00:36:38
like, literally
thousands of people
-
00:36:40
He provides food for in a crowd.
-
00:36:42
He heals lots of people.
-
00:36:44
That's why people
wanted to get close to Him,
-
00:36:46
because they
wanted to touch Him.
-
00:36:48
They wanted to be close to Him.
-
00:36:49
They wanted to drag their
friends to Him in a crowd.
-
00:36:52
And Jesus was patient
and welcoming and inviting.
-
00:36:56
He regularly taught
the crowd because
-
00:36:59
He got super bummed
out that they didn't
-
00:37:00
have good leaders
who were giving them
-
00:37:02
regular encouragement
and instruction.
-
00:37:05
Jesus seemed to
kind of love a crowd.
-
00:37:08
He certainly loved the people
in the crowd very, very freely.
-
00:37:12
Now, I think this is
one of the things that
-
00:37:15
we do pretty well
in this community.
-
00:37:17
I think that's why crowds can
sometimes gather at Crossroads.
-
00:37:21
Because this has
been my experience.
-
00:37:23
I've been in this community
23 years, 23 years.
-
00:37:25
I have never once felt unwelcome
-
00:37:30
or I have never, ever,
even, even when I knew
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00:37:33
not one person here,
I've never thought that
-
00:37:37
anyone was after
something from me.
-
00:37:39
I've genuinely felt invited into
many things over the years.
-
00:37:43
That's exactly how
Jesus interacted
-
00:37:45
with people in the crowd.
-
00:37:46
And if that's real, you
know, we talk about camps
-
00:37:49
and trips a lot around
here, and if you decide
-
00:37:52
to go on one of those,
no one's going to check
-
00:37:54
to see if you've been baptized
-
00:37:56
or what your theological
convictions are.
-
00:37:58
You know, Jesus didn't
do that with people either.
-
00:38:01
When he was in mass
numbers of people,
-
00:38:04
He invited them closer to
actually meet real needs,
-
00:38:08
to actually engage exactly
where their lives were
-
00:38:12
at that time, and try to be a
blessing to them in the crowd.
-
00:38:16
He generously gave what
actually mattered to people.
-
00:38:20
He never represented a
crowd as a terrible thing,
-
00:38:23
but it is a one
dimensional thing.
-
00:38:25
The kind of relationship
you can have with somebody
-
00:38:27
who's in a crowd is
not complete, right?
-
00:38:31
You might see what's
true. It's just not complete.
-
00:38:35
And I think about
that whenever I speak,
-
00:38:38
whenever I teach, I just think,
-
00:38:40
I really strive to be
authentically myself,
-
00:38:43
like to talk like I would to
my friends or my coworkers,
-
00:38:47
to say what's honest
and real about my life
-
00:38:50
and about my
relationship with Jesus.
-
00:38:52
I really do strive to do that.
-
00:38:54
But at the same time, if
you came home with me,
-
00:38:59
you would see something
entirely different. Right?
-
00:39:02
You would see a
bunch of new layers.
-
00:39:04
If you came home with me you
would see how I talk to my kids.
-
00:39:08
You would see how we did
family meeting on Sunday night.
-
00:39:11
You might wonder
why there was Yahtzee
-
00:39:12
in the middle of my kitchen
table 365 days a year.
-
00:39:16
You might hear what's
on my Spotify playlist
-
00:39:20
or how I do my calendar.
-
00:39:21
You might wonder who I
spend time with, you know,
-
00:39:25
marked out, like,
some of my friendships
-
00:39:27
and how I engage those.
-
00:39:29
There's just
layers to all of us.
-
00:39:30
There's layers of
complexity to who you are
-
00:39:33
and how you put your life
together that you could learn
-
00:39:36
if we went home with each other,
-
00:39:38
if we engaged in each
other's lives that way.
-
00:39:40
Anybody wondering
why I have Yahtzee
-
00:39:42
in the middle of
my kitchen table?
-
00:39:43
Yeah, I threw that one
out there, and I thought,
-
00:39:48
"I wonder if they're wonder
why I have Yahtzee."
-
00:39:50
It's not just our favorite
game, but I've noticed
-
00:39:52
it's exactly the right length,
-
00:39:53
pro tip for anybody
who has teenagers,
-
00:39:55
it's exactly the
right length of game
-
00:39:57
to get my kids to say yes to.
-
00:40:00
Like it only takes like eight
minutes
-
00:40:02
to play a game of Yahtzee.
-
00:40:03
So it's how I get my my
teenagers to stick around
-
00:40:06
the kitchen a little longer.
-
00:40:07
"Oh, why don't
you just sit down?
-
00:40:09
Let's play a quick
game of Yahtzee."
-
00:40:10
It's like, "Okay, fine."
-
00:40:12
And they sit and
then we can talk.
-
00:40:14
It like holds them
in the kitchen longer,
-
00:40:15
so it's my thing. I bet you --
-
00:40:17
I'll bet you I've played 20
games of Yahtzee this week.
-
00:40:20
This week alone. Promise
you, not making it up.
-
00:40:22
I have four kids, so what
does that work out to?
-
00:40:24
You know, five games a kid.
That's probably about right.
-
00:40:27
Anyway, we have these
layers of things about us
-
00:40:31
that make us who we are
and how we live our life.
-
00:40:34
And while Jesus engaged
lovingly and freely in a crowd,
-
00:40:40
giving what was real
and true and good,
-
00:40:42
it's also true
that you can't get
-
00:40:45
the complete picture of
who He is in that setting.
-
00:40:48
It's exactly the same as it
would be for you or for me.
-
00:40:52
Jesus cannot be
fully known in a crowd,
-
00:40:55
and throughout the book of
Mark, we see this line drawn
-
00:41:00
between the crowd and another
group of people in His life.
-
00:41:04
And as a matter of fact,
if you read very carefully,
-
00:41:07
you're going to
notice that the crowd
-
00:41:08
is often mentioned right
alongside these people,
-
00:41:11
almost like a contrast to them.
-
00:41:13
And so Jesus draws this
line between the crowd
-
00:41:17
and another group who
seems to actually know Him.
-
00:41:21
And that group of people
is always referred to
-
00:41:24
distinctly as His
disciples, His disciples.
-
00:41:29
Now that word is very specific.
-
00:41:30
These guys were
also His friends.
-
00:41:33
They were also His
traveling companions.
-
00:41:35
They were also likely
people He had known
-
00:41:37
for a lot of his life, but
they were His disciples.
-
00:41:42
And that word appears
in contrast and next to
-
00:41:46
what Jesus would do in a crowd
-
00:41:49
versus what He would do
with His group of disciples.
-
00:41:52
This kind of relationship
that the Bible calls disciple
-
00:41:56
is a very important
and specific distinction.
-
00:41:59
As a matter of fact, it
exists across a certain line.
-
00:42:05
And I believe
that that's the line
-
00:42:07
that Jesus is interested
in each of us crossing,
-
00:42:11
where we come out
of the crowd of people
-
00:42:13
that He loves, that He gives to,
-
00:42:15
that He welcomes, that He wants,
-
00:42:17
and we cross a line,
and now we're a disciple.
-
00:42:22
And these two groups
are very distinctly different,
-
00:42:24
and they get different
aspects of who Jesus is,
-
00:42:27
and they know him
at different levels.
-
00:42:29
This is a critical
kind of relationship,
-
00:42:32
one, so much so, that
it's exactly what Jesus said
-
00:42:35
in His final words
here on earth before --
-
00:42:38
After He had been
raised from the dead
-
00:42:40
and He had interacted
with His disciples,
-
00:42:43
here's what He says
to them, His final words:
-
00:43:02
Jesus said, go to the
nations, go to the crowds,
-
00:43:06
go, gather crowds, you're
probably going to need to.
-
00:43:09
But also what we're looking
for is making disciples.
-
00:43:12
We're looking for the
people in the crowd
-
00:43:15
who will step up and
out and cross the line
-
00:43:18
into a relationship
that's much deeper,
-
00:43:21
where you get, what did He say?
-
00:43:23
Taught everything that
I've commanded You,
-
00:43:26
and surely I am with you.
-
00:43:28
This is the relationship
where you're with Jesus.
-
00:43:31
You're going where He goes.
You're doing what He does.
-
00:43:34
You're you're learning His ways,
-
00:43:36
the way that you and I would
-
00:43:37
if we followed each
other around for the day.
-
00:43:41
Disciples follow up close.
-
00:43:43
They see the rhythm.
They see the heart.
-
00:43:45
They get exposed
to how Jesus prayed
-
00:43:47
and connected with His
Father, where He went,
-
00:43:50
what His mission was, why
He was doing it that way.
-
00:43:52
All of that stuff is
the life of a disciple.
-
00:43:56
And can you catch a
glimpse of it in the crowd?
-
00:43:59
Sure, you absolutely can.
-
00:44:00
But you have to be
careful, because sometimes
-
00:44:03
what you see of
someone in the crowd,
-
00:44:05
you can even
misinterpret, right?
-
00:44:08
You can see a
thing in the crowd,
-
00:44:10
and you can assume
it's about one thing.
-
00:44:12
And then when you
get to know the person,
-
00:44:14
you realize, "Oh, that's
what that really was."
-
00:44:18
And it's exactly the
same with Jesus.
-
00:44:20
So we can glimpse
Him in the crowd
-
00:44:22
and what we see is
true, it's just incomplete.
-
00:44:25
And our knowledge, our
deep knowledge of Him,
-
00:44:27
is waiting in this
relationship called disciple.
-
00:44:32
So if that relationship exists
and it's good, you know,
-
00:44:38
if your goal is to
know as much of God
-
00:44:40
as you probably possibly could,
-
00:44:43
why aren't we all
doing it, is the question.
-
00:44:48
And to understand
ourselves a little bit better,
-
00:44:51
I want to share with you
something that happened
-
00:44:53
when I was in seminary.
-
00:44:54
I was taking a class that
was actually partly online,
-
00:44:58
and I had to turn in a paper.
-
00:45:00
And there was like a portal
where we had to upload it
-
00:45:02
and check like, yes,
this is my original work,
-
00:45:04
and submit it,
little submit button.
-
00:45:06
And so I go to
turn in this paper
-
00:45:08
and there's a two question quiz.
-
00:45:10
It's like you must, you
know, must answer
-
00:45:12
in order for the submit
button to, you know, pop up.
-
00:45:15
And so the two questions were:
-
00:45:18
how much time did you
spend on this paper?
-
00:45:21
And the multiple
choice was 0 to 4 hours,
-
00:45:23
five to 9, or 10 plus.
And you had to pick one.
-
00:45:27
And then the second question
was a lot more interesting.
-
00:45:32
The first option, now
I want you to imagine
-
00:45:35
what might you
do if you saw this?
-
00:45:38
First option was: I'll take
an A right now, thanks.
-
00:45:44
The second option was: I'll
take what I've truly earned.
-
00:45:51
And the third option was:
I don't know what this is,
-
00:45:54
but have a great weekend!
-
00:45:57
And you had to pick one
in order to submit the paper.
-
00:46:00
So I chose one. I
submit the paper.
-
00:46:03
I come back into the
class on Monday morning
-
00:46:05
only to learn that that
was absolutely real.
-
00:46:09
That question
was absolutely real.
-
00:46:12
You either picked the
I'll take an A, thanks,
-
00:46:15
and your grade was recorded.
-
00:46:18
Or he was going
to grade your paper
-
00:46:19
for whatever you were
actually going to get.
-
00:46:22
You all, the class exploded,
absolutely exploded.
-
00:46:26
And we were to
discuss this openly,
-
00:46:29
like with each other,
-
00:46:30
what we were
thinking, what we were feeling.
-
00:46:33
And most people were going like,
-
00:46:34
"I had no idea that
that was real. What?
-
00:46:38
I've never seen that before."
-
00:46:40
Some people were
just flat out annoyed.
-
00:46:42
"I put ten freaking hours.
-
00:46:44
You mean to tell me if you put
half an hour into that paper,
-
00:46:47
you could have gotten an A on it
if you picked that option?"
-
00:46:49
Yep. Absolutely right.
You definitely could have.
-
00:46:53
It was utterly real.
And it was a total setup.
-
00:46:58
It was a total setup by
our professor to set us up
-
00:47:02
for our reaction to this
life altering relationship
-
00:47:08
that we are offered in Christ.
-
00:47:12
When we're told
there's a way that
-
00:47:16
your sin can be
utterly paid for,
-
00:47:18
and you can walk
freely into the power
-
00:47:21
and the goodness
and the life of God
-
00:47:23
in the Kingdom of God,
-
00:47:24
no matter what
you've done in the past.
-
00:47:28
Sometimes our responses
are a little complicated. Yes?
-
00:47:32
Like, unexpectedly complicated.
-
00:47:34
And that was what the
discussion forum was all about,
-
00:47:37
because he was trying
as an object lesson to go,
-
00:47:39
like, "How did you
really feel about the fact
-
00:47:41
that you didn't pick that option
-
00:47:43
and your neighbor
got an A? You know?"
-
00:47:45
I mean, it was -- it was
infuriating to people.
-
00:47:47
And I got to tell you, the
reason it was so explosive
-
00:47:53
is because only three
people out of the entire class
-
00:47:57
picked I'll take an
A, thanks. Three.
-
00:48:03
That's incredible. Three
people picked that option.
-
00:48:09
I happen to be one of
them, by the way. Ha, ha, ha.
-
00:48:13
I was like, yeah --
-
00:48:14
I think it was really like
my straightforwardness.
-
00:48:18
Well, that's what it says.
-
00:48:20
I just, okay,
yeah, I'll take it.
-
00:48:24
If that's real, I'm
in. You know?
-
00:48:26
I'm pretty, I'm like a very
straightforward person.
-
00:48:29
And I just went on the
off chance that's real,
-
00:48:33
I'll go for it.
-
00:48:34
Three of us, three of us.
-
00:48:37
And I stayed
pretty quiet because
-
00:48:39
we were really being hated on.
-
00:48:41
People were all up in
their feelings about this.
-
00:48:46
And it's amazing
how complicated,
-
00:48:50
how complex that
question can be to answer.
-
00:48:53
But it all boiled
down to one thing.
-
00:48:55
As I listened to the
discussion that was going on
-
00:48:57
in the class what it
boiled down to that day
-
00:49:00
is that everybody
had their own version
-
00:49:02
of what they thought they might
lose if they pick that option.
-
00:49:08
I might lose self-respect.
-
00:49:10
I might lose respect
of the professor.
-
00:49:13
What if this is some
weird test of character
-
00:49:16
and I get tossed
out of seminary?
-
00:49:18
Like people were crazy.
-
00:49:19
It was all kinds of
crazy explanations.
-
00:49:23
And it all boiled down to if
you didn't pick that option,
-
00:49:27
it was because you had
some version of something
-
00:49:30
you thought you
would lose if you did.
-
00:49:33
Now, I want you
to listen to the line
-
00:49:36
that Jesus draws between
the crowd and the disciples.
-
00:49:40
It comes from
Mark chapter eight.
-
00:50:05
Not only do we see Him
again making this distinction
-
00:50:08
between the crowd and disciples,
-
00:50:11
but He's calling to
the crowd saying,
-
00:50:13
"Do you want to come?
Do you want to come?
-
00:50:16
But there's just one
thing you should know."
-
00:50:19
And he gives us the
heart of the reason
-
00:50:22
why we get complicated
around this answer,
-
00:50:25
because we don't
want to lose something.
-
00:50:29
And from the vantage
point of the crowd,
-
00:50:32
it looks like we might.
-
00:50:33
When we think
about crossing the line
-
00:50:35
into a deeper life with Jesus
and really following Him,
-
00:50:39
maybe the heart
of our objection,
-
00:50:41
no matter which
person is answering,
-
00:50:43
the heart of the objection
maybe boils down to:
-
00:50:46
what if I lose something?
-
00:50:51
What if I'm not willing
to risk what it looks like
-
00:50:55
I might lose in this equation
of crossing that line?
-
00:50:59
And the life of a
disciple is really risk
-
00:51:02
after risk after risk
to step across the line
-
00:51:05
and find out is it
real? Is He good?
-
00:51:11
Is He there? Did He mean it?
-
00:51:15
Do His words about
money or sex or friendship,
-
00:51:21
do they work in my life?
-
00:51:23
Do I find more life if I
try to move that direction?
-
00:51:27
And the life of a
disciple is asking that
-
00:51:29
and crossing the line over
and over and over again.
-
00:51:32
But the truth is, from the
vantage point of the crowd,
-
00:51:35
it looks like every
time we cross the line,
-
00:51:38
we might just lose something.
-
00:51:41
And so we stay in the
crowd, we stay in the crowd,
-
00:51:45
and we never experience
the upside of a life with Jesus
-
00:51:48
because we we can't know
it until we cross the line.
-
00:51:53
And we just have a
limited view in the crowd.
-
00:51:55
And I think there's three
places that we can be
-
00:51:57
in our life that make
it especially difficult,
-
00:51:59
three different places
you could be tonight,
-
00:52:04
that you could be in
one of these places.
-
00:52:06
And I just got to
tell you, I feel you.
-
00:52:08
I have been in all
three of the places
-
00:52:10
that we're about to
discuss, and we see them all
-
00:52:14
also in the book of Mark.
-
00:52:16
And when you're in
these places, the line,
-
00:52:19
crossing the line
to try to come into
-
00:52:22
a closer relationship with Jesus
-
00:52:24
doesn't look as
good as it sounds.
-
00:52:26
And one of those places is
when you're really, really low,
-
00:52:30
when you are down
low. And I'm a realist.
-
00:52:35
I know that there's
people in here tonight
-
00:52:36
who would say they're
in a season or a day
-
00:52:38
or a week where
they're just feeling low.
-
00:52:41
There was a woman in the
book of Mark, chapter five,
-
00:52:44
who was at the
lowest point of her life,
-
00:52:46
and she goes into the
crowd around Jesus.
-
00:52:48
Here's what it says:
-
00:53:20
Now, this is a good
crowd story, right?
-
00:53:23
Even her being in the crowd
that day was a big move.
-
00:53:26
If you had been this
woman in that culture,
-
00:53:30
you would have
spent over a decade
-
00:53:31
being declared
unclean, which means
-
00:53:34
you're outside the normal
rhythms of every aspect
-
00:53:38
of life in the Jewish
culture and community.
-
00:53:40
She was, for all
practical purposes,
-
00:53:44
a pretty much on the
outskirts, or an outcast
-
00:53:47
of her culture and
her community.
-
00:53:49
And so she probably
wasn't even supposed
-
00:53:51
to be in the crowd that day.
-
00:53:52
So I want you to picture
an FC kind of crowd,
-
00:53:55
like, a crushing crowd,
and she takes the low place,
-
00:53:58
does some kind of army
crawl, and comes up to Jesus
-
00:54:02
and touches the
hem of His cloak.
-
00:54:07
And lo and behold, Jesus,
like He does so many times,
-
00:54:10
actually gives something
amazing in the crowd.
-
00:54:14
He heals her. Her
body is healed.
-
00:54:17
She actually gets what
she thought she came for.
-
00:54:20
And the crowd
offered her the cover
-
00:54:22
she wanted to do it, right?
-
00:54:23
She didn't want to take the
risk because it was a risk,
-
00:54:26
make no mistake, it was
a risk for her to be there.
-
00:54:29
And the crowd gave her
just the cover she needed,
-
00:54:31
not to do what?
Experience more rejection,
-
00:54:36
more disappointment.
-
00:54:41
Over and over and over again
-
00:54:43
she had been to
doctors, that's what it said.
-
00:54:45
She had been
repeatedly disappointed,
-
00:54:48
not healed and rejected.
-
00:54:49
And the crowd, was offering her
the cover to not take a risk.
-
00:54:53
And she comes up to Jesus
and touches the hem of His cloak
-
00:54:56
and actually gets
something amazing.
-
00:55:01
I think this woman
would have been,
-
00:55:02
on the quiz in my class, I
think she might have been
-
00:55:06
the one that said, "I
don't know what this is,
-
00:55:08
but have a good weekend."
-
00:55:10
Like, can't even see the line.
-
00:55:13
Can't even imagine
that there's more for her.
-
00:55:16
But Jesus knew there was more.
-
00:55:18
So listen to what He does
next. It's so interesting.
-
00:55:21
She was probably
happy to slink away,
-
00:55:24
but Jesus, huh-uh. No,
sir. Here's what He says.
-
00:55:28
He pushes on His disciples.
"Who? I just felt that.
-
00:55:31
What's going on here? Who
did that? Something happened."
-
00:55:35
And they're like, "Dude,
people are pressing against you.
-
00:55:38
What do you mean?"
-
00:55:39
And he's, like, insistent.
-
00:55:41
And here's what it says:
-
00:55:52
She crossed the line.
She crossed the line.
-
00:55:55
She came up out of the
crowd, trembling with fear.
-
00:55:59
When you are low in
your life, it takes trembling
-
00:56:02
with fear to drag
yourself to Jesus.
-
00:56:05
And I think the real
risk here is hope.
-
00:56:09
Yeah, sure,
-
00:56:11
the crowd prevented her
from having to risk rejection.
-
00:56:13
But even deeper than
that, even deeper than that,
-
00:56:17
would she consider hoping
again, hoping for a life
-
00:56:21
that she hadn't had
for more than 12 years?
-
00:56:25
And she finally
crosses the line.
-
00:56:27
And here's what happens.
-
00:56:37
Jesus had far more for her
than a life in the shadows.
-
00:56:41
That day when he pulled her up,
-
00:56:43
when she came and fell at
his feet and told that story,
-
00:56:45
you know what
would have happened?
-
00:56:47
Way more than
her physical healing.
-
00:56:49
She would have gotten her
family back, her community back.
-
00:56:51
She would have been
able to go to temple again.
-
00:56:53
She would have been able
to completely rejoin her life
-
00:56:56
by doing that kind of
testimony that was authenticated
-
00:57:00
by Jesus in front of that
crowd, and He knew that.
-
00:57:03
He wanted that for her,
but she had to cross the line.
-
00:57:08
She slunk up and got the
little bit that she came for,
-
00:57:11
and Jesus was like,
"No, there's more.
-
00:57:13
I want you to cross the line."
-
00:57:17
So if you're here today
-
00:57:18
and you're in that low
place in your life, I get it.
-
00:57:22
I actually get how it feels
-
00:57:24
to not want to get out
of bed in the morning.
-
00:57:26
I get what it means to look,
try to look into your future,
-
00:57:30
and all you see is
like a black curtain
-
00:57:32
in front of your face.
Can't picture a thing.
-
00:57:35
I understand.
-
00:57:38
I'm only asking you to
entertain the possibility
-
00:57:41
that that view will never
change if you stay in the crowd.
-
00:57:45
The only way, the
only way you get
-
00:57:48
a different vantage point
on the life that Jesus offers
-
00:57:52
is to cross the line
-
00:57:54
into actually
following Him as a disciple.
-
00:57:58
Okay, okay. So
down low is one place
-
00:58:02
that's really hard
to cross a line from.
-
00:58:04
And the next place
is up high. Up high.
-
00:58:10
When you're sitting up high,
-
00:58:11
it's hard to even
see there is a line.
-
00:58:14
There's a group of
people all the way
-
00:58:15
through the gospels
that Jesus speaks to,
-
00:58:17
nd it's His harshest words,
and they are the people
-
00:58:20
who were sitting very high up
in the culture of Jesus's day.
-
00:58:23
They were the
religious teachers.
-
00:58:25
They were the religious
leaders, teachers of the law,
-
00:58:28
scribes, Pharisees,
all of those words
-
00:58:30
would kind of encapsulate
this sort of ruling class.
-
00:58:35
Now their culture was
totally wrapped around
-
00:58:37
their faith, which ours is not.
-
00:58:39
And so maybe some of
these people in your life
-
00:58:41
are like, I don't know,
social media influencers
-
00:58:45
that manage to get a
million followers, right?
-
00:58:47
And so now they have,
they've got advantages.
-
00:58:49
They're sitting at
the top of something.
-
00:58:51
Maybe they're just
leaders or beautiful people
-
00:58:53
or wealthy people, whatever.
-
00:58:54
Maybe you just exist in
a crowd and you're like,
-
00:58:56
"I don't know, that
guy just always seems
-
00:58:58
to come out on top."
-
00:58:59
You know, there's just
some people that are like that.
-
00:59:02
And if you're in a place where
you are constantly up, high,
-
00:59:08
this is a very, very hard
place to cross the line
-
00:59:11
and become a disciple of Jesus.
-
00:59:13
Now why would that be?
-
00:59:15
Let's read Mark
12. Jesus says this:
-
00:59:39
Jesus says, "The
crowd's working for them.
-
00:59:44
Why in the world would
you step out of the crowd
-
00:59:47
when every time you step in
it, you get the place of honor?
-
00:59:50
You're the one on top.
-
00:59:52
You're the one that
gets all the good stuff."
-
00:59:54
And it's really hard to see that
-
00:59:56
there's a life beyond
a line with Jesus,
-
00:59:59
that there's actually
more good stuff to get.
-
01:00:02
That doesn't compute a lot when
you spend your life at the top.
-
01:00:06
It can be a dangerous
place because
-
01:00:08
you can't even really
imagine that there is a life.
-
01:00:11
And frankly, a lot
of times when you're
-
01:00:14
consistently at the top,
you're like, "I earned this."
-
01:00:20
These were definitely the people
-
01:00:22
in our discussion
forum that were going,
-
01:00:24
"Like, I put ten
hours of work in.
-
01:00:27
When he grades my paper,
I had better also get an A."
-
01:00:32
And the truth is, that's
the truth sometimes. Right?
-
01:00:35
There are people
who ride the top,
-
01:00:38
it's just that when
you're always up there,
-
01:00:41
you lose sight of the line
-
01:00:43
that is pretty far
down below you.
-
01:00:46
And I started
thinking about this.
-
01:00:48
There are no, like, I want
to share another story
-
01:00:52
with you from the
gospel of Mark,
-
01:00:53
where there's some
religious leader that finally
-
01:00:56
comes to Jesus across the line,
-
01:00:59
and there's not one there.
-
01:01:03
Most of them never did.
-
01:01:06
We get a glimpse of one
and one of the other gospels
-
01:01:08
who's really compelled
toward Jesus,
-
01:01:11
and the best he can
do is show up at night
-
01:01:13
under cover of darkness and
start asking some questions.
-
01:01:16
And that's good.
-
01:01:17
In my book, he probably
did end up as a follower,
-
01:01:19
maybe he's the one.
-
01:01:21
But in any case, we don't
have a wonderful story,
-
01:01:26
and there's probably
a reason why.
-
01:01:30
And I started thinking
about my most favorite,
-
01:01:34
like, followers of Christ
that I've known in my life.
-
01:01:36
And they had practices.
They all have little practices.
-
01:01:39
I started to pick this up,
I don't know, years ago,
-
01:01:42
just again, talking to people,
-
01:01:44
knowing them more
intimately in their life.
-
01:01:46
And I want to share a
couple of these with you
-
01:01:48
because I think
it's a great way to,
-
01:01:50
even if you're in an
amazing phase of your life,
-
01:01:53
which God bless
you, I'm happy about it.
-
01:01:55
But we just need this, we
need these regular rhythms
-
01:01:59
of coming down low
so we can see the line
-
01:02:02
and we can cross over with Jesus
-
01:02:04
so we don't go thinking
-
01:02:05
we're building our own
life at the top. Right?
-
01:02:08
And so all, all of my
favorite Jesus followers
-
01:02:11
have all had
these little practices
-
01:02:13
that only them and Jesus
really ever knew about.
-
01:02:16
And they were all little
practices of dipping down low.
-
01:02:21
One is a woman that I've known
-
01:02:23
for many years
here at Crossroads.
-
01:02:25
She's incredibly gifted
in many different ways,
-
01:02:27
and she serves on
the facilities team
-
01:02:29
and she cleans the toilets.
-
01:02:32
And I said, "What
are you doing?"
-
01:02:35
And she's like, "It's
good for me to remember
-
01:02:37
that I'm not above
this. This is my practice.
-
01:02:40
This is how I do it." Wow.
-
01:02:43
I know somebody
else who at her office
-
01:02:47
she was a vice president
of somewhere or other.
-
01:02:50
And her practice was
a communal printer
-
01:02:53
that was shared
around their group,
-
01:02:55
and it was always out of paper.
-
01:02:57
And nobody knows what toner is.
-
01:02:58
Nobody knows what toner is.
-
01:03:00
And so she took it upon herself
-
01:03:02
to understand how
to replace the toner.
-
01:03:04
And then every time
she passed the printer,
-
01:03:06
she would check the
paper tray and refill it
-
01:03:09
so that the whole group always
had a functioning printer.
-
01:03:12
Now, a lot of you who
are, I don't know, below 35
-
01:03:16
are like, "Why would you
ever print something? What?"
-
01:03:20
Back in the day, we
used to print things out
-
01:03:23
and it was a real pain when
there was no paper in the tray.
-
01:03:25
And she took that on for years,
-
01:03:28
the vice president
of their division
-
01:03:30
refilled their toner and paper.
-
01:03:32
Not her job, but her regular
practice between her and God,
-
01:03:37
of a way of coming
down, dipping down,
-
01:03:39
making sure she wasn't
living her life at the top.
-
01:03:41
I'll tell you mine.
-
01:03:44
Now, if you knew me, if
you followed me home,
-
01:03:46
you would know that
I actually hate to cook.
-
01:03:50
I like to bake,
but I hate to cook.
-
01:03:53
I feel like you either
like one or the other.
-
01:03:54
Do you think that's true?
-
01:03:56
I don't know, maybe there's some
crazy people that like both.
-
01:03:58
So I like to bake.
I hate to cook,
-
01:04:00
but I have four
kids, family of six,
-
01:04:01
so I deal with
food all the time.
-
01:04:04
I feel like for many,
many years, all I do
-
01:04:06
is prepare food for
other people to eat.
-
01:04:09
And so I adopted this
practice between me and Jesus
-
01:04:13
many, many years
ago because I noticed
-
01:04:15
my own tendency to take
the best piece for myself.
-
01:04:20
I'm like, "I'm the one who's
been standing here all day.
-
01:04:23
I'm going to take
the best brownie."
-
01:04:25
And pretty soon I adopted
this practice with Jesus,
-
01:04:28
where every time I plated
something, divided something,
-
01:04:31
cut something up, shared
a serving, every time
-
01:04:34
I had to choose pieces
to go on people's plates,
-
01:04:37
I would choose the
lesser of the two.
-
01:04:41
And it was just my daily
practice with Jesus going,
-
01:04:44
"I can dip down.
-
01:04:46
Yes, I'm in control
of this food situation,
-
01:04:49
and I can take
the lesser piece."
-
01:04:52
So it was just
these little practices
-
01:04:54
that we can adopt
in our life for real,
-
01:04:56
that actually, even
when everything's fine.
-
01:04:58
And again, bless you
if you're in a season
-
01:05:00
where you're at
the top, enjoy it,
-
01:05:03
and dip down because
you can only see,
-
01:05:06
you can only feel the
reward of a life in the Kingdom
-
01:05:10
when you actually set aside
-
01:05:14
the reward of the life
that you've got here.
-
01:05:17
And so the line becomes
a little bit more apparent.
-
01:05:21
Okay. So, last place. We've
done up high, down low.
-
01:05:25
And now the middle,
obviously, is the third one.
-
01:05:31
Pretty much covers
all of us, that's the point.
-
01:05:35
But from the middle, the
crowd who's in the middle
-
01:05:41
struggles to cross the line
-
01:05:42
for a completely
different reason.
-
01:05:44
Now these are regular
old, decent people,
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01:05:47
which is almost
everybody, right?
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01:05:49
Almost everybody would
say, like, "I go to my job,
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01:05:52
I do my schoolwork,
I take care of my kids.
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01:05:55
I try to be a decent neighbor.
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01:05:56
Like, I'm a regular,
old, decent person."
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01:05:59
I feel like the crowd for this
person makes us feel good.
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01:06:05
It makes us feel like
we're all in this together.
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01:06:08
There's no line necessary.
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01:06:09
You're good, we're good.
We're all good here. Right?
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01:06:12
I actually need you to tell me
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01:06:13
that we're good about something,
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01:06:15
because I made what I now
know to be a huge mistake.
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01:06:19
And I just want to feel like
we're in this together. Okay?
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01:06:22
So, like, six weeks ago, I
got lured into some ads online.
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01:06:28
I feel like they targeted
me because I'm in Ohio,
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01:06:30
where it was 92 days in a
row of gray and 39 degrees.
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01:06:35
And it was like sunshines
and bathing suits.
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01:06:39
And I actually purchased a
bathing suit online in January.
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01:06:44
I'm just going to
tell you right now,
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01:06:45
it's a big mistake.
Do not do it.
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01:06:48
Am I the only one
that should not be
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01:06:50
trying on bathing
suits in January?
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01:06:52
Can I get a show of
hands? Not a great idea.
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01:06:55
And I just feel like that's
exactly how the crowd,
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01:06:58
like, I need you to tell me
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01:06:59
that I'm not the
only one in the boat.
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01:07:02
We just ate 14 Christmas
dinners in a row.
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01:07:05
It's not the month to
be buying bathing suits,
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01:07:07
but I feel like I got entrapped.
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01:07:09
I did it, it was a mistake.
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01:07:10
And we're all in that
boat together, you know?
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01:07:12
We look at each
other and we're like,
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01:07:14
"Um hum, um hum. Bad idea."
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01:07:16
My husband was like,
"What are you doing?
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01:07:18
That's a terrible idea."
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01:07:19
Anyway, the crowd
makes us feel like,
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01:07:23
whatever it is, we're
all in this together.
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01:07:25
We're good.
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01:07:26
Surely God can't
want something beyond
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01:07:29
the good things
that I'm trying to do
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01:07:31
and my good intentions.
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01:07:33
He can't surely want
something beyond that, can He?
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01:07:38
At least I'm not like that
guy, jerky superior guy,
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01:07:41
or her who's down low
all the time. I'm good.
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01:07:46
Jesus had some words for a crowd
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01:07:48
with a ton of
people in the middle,
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01:07:50
a lot of decent
folk in this crowd.
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01:07:52
It was his biggest sermon.
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01:07:53
Mixed listeners from
all over the place.
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01:07:56
Tons of good, decent folks.
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01:07:58
And here's what He says
to them. Take a deep breath.
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01:08:24
I never knew you.
I never knew you.
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01:08:27
Guys, knowing Jesus is
the privilege of the disciple.
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01:08:33
Knowing Jesus does
not happen in the crowd.
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01:08:36
Knowing of Him,
knowing about His ways,
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01:08:38
getting a glimpse of Him,
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01:08:39
even receiving
good things from Him.
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01:08:41
Yes, all of that, and wonderful.
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01:08:43
And knowing Him to the
point where we are able
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01:08:48
to follow Him into
what He is doing
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01:08:51
because that's what
His Father is doing,
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01:08:53
and that's where the life
of the Kingdom of God is.
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01:08:55
That is the privilege
of a disciple.
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01:08:59
And that's the kind of
relationship that Jesus wants
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01:09:01
with you and with me
and with everybody that
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01:09:05
He welcomes and loves
into the crowds around Him.
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01:09:09
And I know I joked about
saying whether you're down low
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01:09:12
or up high or in the middle,
it's pretty much all of us.
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01:09:15
But it is true, because no
matter where we sit in our life,
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01:09:19
it's never actually going
to be easy because
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01:09:21
it always looks like the
potential to lose something.
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01:09:26
Whether it's your
own self-respect
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01:09:28
or the reputation of
people around you,
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01:09:30
nothing the middle
crowd hates better
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01:09:32
than somebody who
tries to leave it, right?
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01:09:35
You're a hater.
You're too extreme.
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01:09:37
What do you mean,
it's unnecessary?
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01:09:40
We're all good here.
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01:09:42
It never looks easy from the
vantage point of the crowd,
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01:09:47
it's always easier to
stay, but life as a disciple
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01:09:50
is crossing that
line, not just once,
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01:09:52
but over and over
and over again,
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01:09:54
and slowly realizing
along the way
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01:09:57
in little snowballing ways that
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01:10:00
every time you cross
it, it's not actually a loss.
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01:10:06
That your life becomes
more and more and more alive,
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01:10:11
and that the losses you feared,
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01:10:12
they're actually weirdly
gains in the Kingdom of God,
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01:10:16
that there there is
nothing happening
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01:10:18
that isn't better
than it was before.
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01:10:21
And it's a slow process,
-
01:10:24
and it takes so many
times crossing over that line.
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01:10:27
And I believe
that there's a line
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01:10:29
that God has
put in front of you.
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01:10:31
I believe that every single
one of us, from up high,
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01:10:34
from down low, from
somewhere in the middle,
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01:10:36
that there's an
opportunity to cross the line
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01:10:38
into a greater level
of disciple of Jesus.
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01:10:45
And it might be
the very first time
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01:10:47
that you've ever said,
"I want to follow You."
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01:10:49
And it might be the 175th time.
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01:10:51
It might be the 12th time
on the exact same issue.
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01:10:54
And you keep hopping
over the other side of the line,
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01:10:56
and now we're going to
go back again. That's fine.
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01:10:58
Jesus offers that
to us, free and clear,
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01:11:02
no matter what has
happened in the past.
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01:11:04
And I want you to think
about what that line might be
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01:11:07
while I give you a visual
that I hope encourages you.
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01:11:10
I had a dream over a decade
ago, and I don't remember
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01:11:15
what I thought
about it at the time,
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01:11:17
but it was so striking to me.
-
01:11:18
It was so encouraging
to me that I wrote it down.
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01:11:20
And for some reason
I never forgot it.
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01:11:22
Do you ever have
dreams like that
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01:11:23
where you just return
to them in your mind?
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01:11:25
Hopefully it's a good
one. This is a good one.
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01:11:27
And I want you to have
this visual in your mind
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01:11:29
as you think about what
line you might want to cross
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01:11:33
into a new space with Jesus.
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01:11:35
So I was a soldier
on a battlefield
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01:11:38
and night was about to fall.
-
01:11:40
So the battle had
kind of died down.
-
01:11:42
And I had come into this space
where I wasn't very protected.
-
01:11:45
And so I chose this
like little bush that I,
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01:11:48
I was like, "Oh, this might
hide me for the night."
-
01:11:51
And, but I'm going
to be exposed.
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01:11:53
Like, it kind of hid
me, but not really.
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01:11:55
And night fell and I
got super stressed,
-
01:11:57
and I knew that the light
was going to come up
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01:12:00
and I was going to be exposed,
-
01:12:02
that I wasn't really
hidden where I was.
-
01:12:05
And so I made a
decision as the dawn came
-
01:12:09
and I decided the best
thing I can do is actually
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01:12:13
to stand up above the
line of sight of this bush,
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01:12:15
because then maybe,
maybe, just maybe,
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01:12:18
there would be somebody
that was in my company
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01:12:21
of soldiers nearby
that could help me.
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01:12:22
So I'm just going to pop up.
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01:12:24
That's the best thing I can do.
-
01:12:25
So the dawn comes and I do that,
-
01:12:28
I pop up above the line
and I'm terribly nervous.
-
01:12:31
And I think I'm probably
going to get shot.
-
01:12:33
And then everybody around
me, hundreds of people
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01:12:38
in the same uniform that
I'm in, stand up all around me.
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01:12:43
I was completely
surrounded the entire night
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01:12:46
by my own soldiers, on my
own company and my own team.
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01:12:52
And I say that to say that from
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01:12:54
the vantage point of the crowd,
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01:12:55
it always looks like
it's going to be a loss.
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01:12:58
It always does.
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01:12:59
And when you
choose to cross the line
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01:13:01
into a new place with
Jesus, what you will find
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01:13:05
is that He will never
leave you alone.
-
01:13:07
There will always be people.
-
01:13:09
There will always be people
that He surrounds you with
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01:13:12
and there's life
everywhere that you look.
-
01:13:16
And all through the
night, I was convinced that
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01:13:19
what was going to
happen was death,
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01:13:21
and instead what
I found was life.
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01:13:25
And so as I leave
you here today,
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01:13:28
I want you to
look for this line.
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01:13:30
There's a bright orange line.
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01:13:33
And now, if you're
anywhere at any of our sites,
-
01:13:36
you will see a bright orange
line when you leave this.
-
01:13:39
Maybe you saw it on your way in.
-
01:13:40
Maybe it wasn't even there.
-
01:13:42
Maybe you weren't
looking for it.
-
01:13:43
Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.
-
01:13:44
But you're certainly going
to see it on the way out.
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01:13:47
And if you're at
home, find a line.
-
01:13:49
This is a moment
for you and God.
-
01:13:51
You got a hardwood floor
or a threshold of a doorway,
-
01:13:55
you've got some kind
of line around you,
-
01:13:57
and I want you to
consider crossing it
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01:13:59
and having a moment
with God where you tell Him,
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01:14:02
"This is the line I'm
crossing." Let me pray for you.
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01:14:08
Father, thank You for
dealing with us so individually.
-
01:14:10
I pray that every
heart here would know
-
01:14:13
beyond a shadow
of a doubt, the line
-
01:14:16
that You're inviting
them to step across.
-
01:14:17
And I pray that
You would give them
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01:14:19
the courage to cross it.
-
01:14:23
And I ask that You
would meet them,
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01:14:24
surround them with life.
In Jesus's name. Amen.
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01:14:30
- Jesus is putting
lines in front of all of us,
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01:14:33
and He's inviting
us to cross those.
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01:14:35
He has good things on the
other side for you and for me.
-
01:14:38
I don't know what
area of your life it is,
-
01:14:40
if it's your relationships
or your marriage
-
01:14:42
or your career or your
friends, I don't know,
-
01:14:44
but God has good things for you.
-
01:14:47
And I want to
encourage you to be bold
-
01:14:48
and take that next
step and cross that line.
-
01:14:51
And these moments aren't meant
for you to walk through alone.
-
01:14:54
I'd love to connect
with you personally
-
01:14:55
and pray for you and
help you get connected
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01:14:57
to others in our
Crossroads community.
-
01:14:59
I'd love if you'd email me at
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01:15:01
Andy.Reider@crossroads.net,
-
01:15:02
let me know what your line is
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01:15:04
and how I can
be praying for you.
-
01:15:05
And whether or
not you just chose
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01:15:07
to cross the line and go deeper,
-
01:15:08
there's just a few things I
want to put on your radar
-
01:15:10
that are meant to help you grow.
-
01:15:12
I'd highly recommend you check
out one of our upcoming cohorts.
-
01:15:14
These are asynchronous,
meaning you can just do them
-
01:15:17
when it works for you
on your own timetable,
-
01:15:19
and you get to do them
alongside other people.
-
01:15:22
They involve small
daily challenges,
-
01:15:23
some weekly input and training,
-
01:15:25
and way more to
help you get traction
-
01:15:27
in a specific area of your life.
-
01:15:29
Starting in just a
few weeks, we have
-
01:15:31
21 Days to Build a
Marriage That You'll Love.
-
01:15:33
That's led by my
wife, Rachel and I,
-
01:15:35
and 21 Days to Dating Better.
-
01:15:38
You can find more
information about these
-
01:15:40
and sign up at
crossroads.net/cohorts.
-
01:15:42
Lastly, the Anywhere
team is coming to Orlando
-
01:15:46
alongside Crossroads music
-
01:15:47
and we want to spend
the evening with you.
-
01:15:50
We'll enjoy live,
worship and music,
-
01:15:51
along with drinks and
appetizers throughout the night.
-
01:15:54
Most importantly,
you'll have the chance
-
01:15:56
to meet other community members
-
01:15:57
from Crossroads
Anywhere in Florida.
-
01:15:59
We cannot wait to see you there!
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01:16:00
Head to Crossroads.net/Anywhere
for more info.
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01:16:03
Hey, thank you for joining us.
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01:16:04
We'll see you back next week.